Ivor Timson

I wish to continue to encourage more participation in today's society. I believe in progressive economics and politics. Previously elected Trade Union Official, Nalgo / Unison. Chair, Secretary many National, Regional and local Committees over a period of thirty years. Elected Councillor, School Governor, Economic adviser. Senior/ Principle Manager, Professional Career and qualifications and gained a Masters Degree MSc (Econ) 1991 at Cardiff University. I hope to be able to contribute further.

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Is it really so difficult to comprehend so much toxic- stupidity in economists, poliiticians and the squeqy TV and Radio presenters, most of which have been utterly discredited over the past years. Economists cannot even agree whether their subject is a science or a liberal vocation. So why have they got it so wrong? Were were all the predictions of the current recession. And why in view of the fact that the unfettered market have utterly failed, do we still finance it and even encourage it's destructive forces on our services such as the NHS. Any person visiting from a hypothetical another world, would thing we had all gone completely bonkers. And whilst we might believe the squekies- the so called TV presenters, we forget they are representing their own interests, the status quo and are often in total denial. The ones on BBC radio are often the very worst and have the most to answer for. Continuously telling people that at least some cuts must be accepted is one example of their indoctrination processes. The bankers of course, also fall into this same catorgory and seem to be very self indulgant. The speculators and the stock market also must surely be reformed and controlled again on a democractic and international basis. So why exactly have we got into such a severe crisis sitiation, with a imminent slump in both the overall economy and housing around the corner? Left economists have often called for nationalisation of the banking sector today after the Bank of England's deputy governor conceded that taxpayers should not have had to pay for the 2008 collapse. Paul Tucker told the BBC that the taxpayer bailout represented a failure "at the heart of capitalism," suggesting that investors and shareholders should pick up the bill in any future banking collapse. "If we have a system where banks take the upside but the taxpayer takes the downside, something has gone wrong with capitalism and we need to repair this," he said. "We want the upside to go to the shareholders and to some extent the managers, but the downside must go with that too. This is going to require big changes internationally." Mr Tucker also suggested that banks needed to boost capital reserves in order to stem the flow of a boom and make the finance sector "more resilient" during a bust. His comments were an indication of divisions at the heart of capitalist economic thinking about the state's role in regulating the finance sector, following the outcry over excessive banking bonuses. Professor of Industrial Relations Roger Seifert said banks should be nationalised but the state would have to play an increased role in the long term to "regulate banking behaviour." "The short-term position would be to nationalise failing banks permanently then use them to encourage behavioural change in other banks through more progressive employment and lending policies, linked with community and government projects," he said. And now Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England and Economist has similar resevations. He is of couse cought up in the contadiction of the century regarding interest rates. Whatever decision will lead to slump. The current policy is bring gains of over 100 pound pcm to the average mortgage payer but savers are loosing out. The impact of highering them will be another disaster for the economy as will the staus quo. Left Economics Advisory Panel co-ordinator Andrew Fisher welcomed Mr Tucker's acknowledgement that "something had gone wrong with capitalism." But he added: "To let one of the big banks go bust would see millions lose their savings and tens of thousands lose their jobs. The Labour government was right to step in and nationalise. However, with that nationalisation should have come democratic public control with fair rates for savers and borrower alike and investment targeted at creating sustainable jobs. "While Tucker recognises the inherent flaws in the finance capital system, his free-market solution is the exact opposite of what any Left economists also called for nationalisation of the banking sector today after the Bank of England's deputy governor conceded that taxpayers should not have had to pay for the 2008 collapse. Paul Tucker told the BBC that the taxpayer bailout represented a failure "at the heart of capitalism," suggesting that investors and shareholders should pick up the bill in any future banking collapse. "If we have a system where banks take the upside but the taxpayer takes the downside, something has gone wrong with capitalism and we need to repair this," he said. "We want the upside to go to the shareholders and to some extent the managers, but the downside must go with that too. This is going to require big changes internationally." Mr Tucker also suggested that banks needed to boost capital reserves in order to stem the flow of a boom and make the finance sector "more resilient" during a bust. His comments were an indication of divisions at the heart of capitalist economic thinking about the state's role in regulating the finance sector, following the outcry over excessive banking bonuses. Professor of Industrial Relations Roger Seifert said banks should be nationalised but the state would have to play an increased role in the long term to "regulate banking behaviour." "The short-term position would be to nationalise failing banks permanently then use them to encourage behavioural change in other banks through more progressive employment and lending policies, linked with community and government projects," he said. Left Economics Advisory Panel co-ordinator Andrew Fisher welcomed Mr Tucker's acknowledgement that "something had gone wrong with capitalism." But he added: "To let one of the big banks go bust would see millions lose their savings and tens of thousands lose their jobs. The Labour government was right to step in and nationalise. However, with that nationalisation should have come democratic public control with fair rates for savers and borrower alike and investment targeted at creating sustainable jobs. And do not forget Labour naively thought thaEY HAD THE ECONOMY tamed, remember no mor boom and boost and then we thought we had the climate tamed, so do we have to endure more of this utter bumcome. "While Tucker recognises the inherent flaws in the finance capital system, his free-market solution is the exact opposite of We believe that capitalism is at the root of all societies problems. Capitalism is driven by competition for profits, not by what people need, which in turn leads to wars and environmental damage. It is a system that denies people work when there’s work to be done and lets people starve when they could be fed. Under capitalism there has always been and always will be a significant section of society that is unemployed. Capitalism simply does not provide employment for everyone and never intend too. Friedman wrote a book called Capitalism and Freedom, which Naomi Klein states became the rulebook for economic policy in the United States and in Great Britain under Margaret Thatcher, and we believe is continuing under our current government. These are the rules: 1. Government must remove all rules and regulations standing in the way of the accumulation of profits 2. Government should sell off any assets they own that corporations could be running at a profit 3. Government should dramatically cut back funding of social programs 4. Taxes, when they must exist, should be low and rich and poor should be taxed at the same flat rate 5.Corporations should be free to sell their products anywhere in the world 6.Government should make no effort to protect local industries 7. All prices, including the price of labor should be determined by the market. These are of course are the policies we have been persuing now for many years and they have simply failed. We really must be bonkers to continue to persue them such as privatising the National Heath Service. The banking system. They have forced us, the tax-payer, to bail out the bankers. Yet they have failed to ensure that the same banks give desperately needed credit to families and independent businesses. We need to argue for a fair financial deal, with community banks, credit unions and mutuals.This will ensure those who need financial help are given realistic loans, so they can survive the current economic hardship that they are facing today. We also believe it’s unfair that these irresponsible bankers continue to earn extortionate salaries and bonuses, while 320,000 hard working people still earn less than the low minimum wage. Surely it is time for a National Bank under democractic control. This bank could exist with local community banks and credit unions. The rest should be taken over by the state and amalagamated under such a shceme. Clearly this is the agenda of the Con-Dem government. They are trying to sell everything even tried to sell our forests! Providing a free service such as a library goes completely against what they believe in. Royal Mail is to be sold off, the NHS is being privatised by stealth and our schools over time will become privately owned academies, with an end to free college and university education. This is where Britain is heading if this government is allowed to get away with its agenda. Similal also to that as advocated by Tony Blair who blindly followed the thaterite agenda. And all the parties and the squekies at present are not only colluding in the process of our so called democracy and manipulating it to their own ends they are all offering no solutionn other than we all have to accept cuts. This entails yet again propping up a courrupt system, acccepting a economic slump, banking collapse as the speculative bankers are free agents gambling with our lifestyle and culture. House prices will slump as so will the economy. We seem blind even to the recent past. Our ficticticition invaders have now returned cocluding that we are all bonkers. I will drink to all that providing we start to recognise the failure of the system and the necessity to now develop a real progressive alternative. And as worlwide Revoution now realy does seem to be in the air, let's plan for our own. Perhaps we can start by taking on the squekies i8n the media and in particular the BBC, who resresent the stus quo, their own intests and this literally bankrupt society and it's economy. Our present politicians have lost our trust and their support for the status quo with all it's corruption does not aid their cause. The inherrent contradictions within this absured system have now come to a head and we must commence the struggle to form a new society, in order to avoid the slump and housing crisis just around the corner. Surely it is time for a complete rethink about the type of society we want and are in desoerate need. Let genuine democracy prevail and let it start through community groups determining their own outcomes. The real big society. Ivor Timson Msc( Econ) Bibliography. Acknowledgment to all those qouted.

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